I also play 712 AP2s. I have found them both excellent performers and sufficiently forgiving, without being unlike the older blades. I've tried "newer" look irons (Cobra Fps, but never felt really comfortable with them. That's why I replaced them with the 712 AP2s, but I had myself properly fitted and tried the AP1s, the CBs and the MBs before deciding on the AP2s. Best decision I've made in a long time, but I also added two Vokey SM4 wedges to the mix.